4-3-3 Formation Options – Song, Nasri & Fabregas?

Some quick fire questions for you all to discuss and for me to have a go at answering.

Is it really a 4-3-3, or a 4-5-1 like we saw Wenger employ many times last season?

Well I guess the beauty of the 4-3-3 is that it can switch dynamically to a 4-5-1 if you have wing-forwards who work hard. If Wenger plays Eboue or Diaby as his wing-forward, then it really isn’t a 4-3-3.

Will Wenger play two “defensive midfielders” (even though I question whether Denilson really is a defensive midfielder) out of 3 in the 4-3-3?

If Wenger has a strong, athletic, tackling central midfielder – the 4-3-3 can be perfect. Right now, Song is the only player I trust to play defensive midfield for us. With Song, Denilson and Fabregas playing as the 3 in midfield, I would feel we are wasting a place with so many other talented players at our disposal.

Flamini was enough for us when playing in a 4-4-2. Will Song be? Perhaps, but I don’t think Denilson will be.

In the Flamini 4-4-2, he had Fabregas, Rosicky and Hleb in midfield. They are hardly defensive players are they? Flamini was enough, he held it all together and kept the tempo moving quickly. Last season we saw Wenger lose trust in Denilson to play in a four-man midfield with other attacking players in there with him. So…Song may be the only player that could hold it together. I don’t see Wenger signing anyone apart from Vieira in this position though. He loves Diaby too much.

Here’s what I think. Nasri (after he comes back from injury of course) started to play in the deep lying position a few times last year. He is strong enough. He is skilful enough and he works relatively hard. Barcelona play Yaya, Iniesta and Xavi as a three-man midfield.

So why couldn’t Nasri, Fabregas and Song work. Or ideally an established strong anchor man…maybe Vieira.

With the balance in central midfield being one of strength in Song or Vieira (if signed)…driving force through Nasri and a field-reader in Fabregas, we would have enough there to provide attacking balls for the three-playing in front of them.

Who will lead the line in the centre of the 3 up front?

My choice is always going to be Eduardo every day of the week as regular readers will know. Bendtner could play in the centre. He shouldn’t be wasted on the left where Wenger loves to randomly play him. If Bendtner gets regular games in the centre, I think he will score goals. More than most would believe.
Arshavin has his place cemented as our left forward, leaving Van Persie, Walcott and Vela to play on the right wing forward position. Not to forget Wilshere who I would love to see playing but Wenger will be very cautious with him.

Rosicky can play almost anywhere so it will be interesting to see where Wenger wants him to play if we keep this formation. The problem really is that I can’t see Wenger leaving players like Eboue, Diaby and Denilson out too much because he loves them so much. Only time will tell what our options are going to be. Watch this space.

  • Ben Mills (Arsenal Fan)

    Denilson is clearly a definate starter.

  • Joe

    My ideal formation for next season would be

    ———-Almunia
    Sagna–Gallas–TV–Clichy
    ——–Strong DM
    ——Cesc—-Rosicky
    –RVP—-Eduardo—-Arshavin

    with Theo coming in for van Persie, Bendtner for Eduardo, and Nasri for Rosicky. If they all stay fit (ha) I believe that is a league winning first XI

    • Andy

      My ideal formation would be:
      —————Almunia
      —Sagna—Gallas—Vermealen–Clichy
      —————-Song—————–
      ——Wilshere——-Fabregas——–
      Van Persie——————Arshavin-
      ————-Chamakh—————–

      Obviously Wilshere can’t play every week but Nasri or Rosicky could easily fill in. You could then have a second eleven of:
      ————–Fabianski—————
      –Eboue—Djourou—-Silvestre–Gibbs
      —————Denilson—————
      ———Nasri——Rosicky———–
      –Vela————————Walcott–
      ————-Eduardo——————-

    • ICE

      totaly agree whit your team here..

  • Someone somewhere

    BS. Arsenal don’t have enough quality to play a successful 4-3-3 formation. It is a pipe dream. Against any of the top clubs they will get hammered because the 4-3-3 requires great discipline and energy to its execution, traits that several of the players in the current squad lack. Barcelona’s game against Manu in the CL final is a fine example of the manner in which the system is meant to be executed. While players such as Fabregas, Rosicky and Arshavin have what it takes, players like Song, van Persie, Theo and Bendtner are found wanting. Besides, a couple of pre-season games against inferior opposition is hardly adequate preparation.

    • mjc

      Shouldn’t you stick to posting on your own webite Myles?

      • Hugo

        Took the words right out of my mouth!

        Regurgitating the rubbish spouted by Myles Palmer makes your very firmly voiced post neither orginal nor valuable in any way. It’s bad enough that Palmer writes his crap in the first place, having morons condensing and repeating it on other websites is even worse!

        • mjc

          I still think it’s actually Myles.
          If he’d mentioned a jazz club, or his old mate Dave Edmunds I have been absolutely positive….

  • ICE

    I agree with joes formation of the team! arshavin,eduardo and r.van persie will rotate..Very powerfull attack..if u ask me

  • Sheila

    Where is your original thought Hugo? At least Myles and this poster have something besides criticism to offer. Jackasses like you who slate every post because you disagree with them show you up for what you really are: clueless.

    • Hugo

      Hahaha! Thank you for your accurate an in depth assessment of my life and my knowledge of the game Sheila! Are you another of Mr Palmer’s cunning aliases?

  • Simon

    I am Myles. Those of you hypocrites who claim not to read my blog yet know of everything that I write are about as transparent as glass. Face it, the reason you are all so intrigued is bacause deep down you know I am right yet your shallow self-denial won’t allow you to admit it. COYS

  • otariq

    I too think it’s Myles. This guy is so full of crap that he even wrote that Eto is the best African player ever. Did Miles ever see George Weah, Abedi Pele or Roger Milla play?

  • fanele

    Arsenal need to add hieght to the quality they have already, ideally wenger still needs to buy 3 more players with a bit of height like Veira, Chamack/hantellar and hangeland(it doesn’t matter whether he is cup tied, we still needs him to win the League).The 4-3-3 system will not work against all the teams.Chelsea, liverpool and MANU will simply shot that system down with long balls.

  • Sheila

    Funny how so many of you claim not to have read Myles yet seem so familiar with what he writes. If you think what he writes is such rubbish, then why do read it? I think Myles more sense than most of the bias tripe that passes for analysis out there. At least he isn’t so narrow minded as to lose his objectivity. Your disagreement does not make you any more correct and he any less right. As with this blog, Myles’s an opinion, take or leave it. Tearing into someone because you disagree with their views says more about you than you think.

  • Phil

    Sheila,
    That’s the trouble, Myles doesn’t have objectivity. He has something else, call it, a hatred, of Wenger. He used to have access to George Graham, and his hierarchy. He doesn’t anymore. He is not part of Wenger’s inner circle. So he snipes from the sidelines, and writes pernicious articles, with no perspective about the modern game. He is utterly and completely clueless about the financial and technical aspects of the game. People are drawn to his articles because people read all things arsenal. If you are an arsenal fan, his articles are sick. But then, a lot of people suspect he is a chelsea fan, and he is just leeching off the publicity.

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